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I thought my penn was a cadilac until i bought a fin nor ahab...then the penn was loose as a goose
then I bought a van staal and they all seem loose and sloppy
I hear ya shadow, its personal feel, NIB loves the loosenes of the penns where you and I like the tighness of the vs. to each its own as long a we can all land the fish we want with what we are fishing with
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