THE FIRST one's have NO epoxy. pink Chenille
THE SECOND one the realistic is a copy of TIM WHOLANDS squid. just look for an OLD FLY TYER MAG. he is usualy in everymonth with realistic fishable flys.
that has a 34011 longshank 2/0 w/20lb leader it is made w/ tissue, coated in clear gel tacky glue an painted. works GREAT one fish one fly. as long as you make past the blues.
GOOD LUCK GOOD TYIN
