[JohnR]

Captain Dave - well said, you just said in 3 sentences what took me an hour to write between "Real Work"

This is NOT a bitchin' session, hopefully just a bump in the right direction. Please understand it as that. However, I am getting a bit tired of seeing threads hijacked this way.

Take it Easy Please,, How are we 'taking over' the website??
By not being a PART of it and maybe a little disruptive for us old farts...

WE NEVER ASKED YOU FOR YOUR SHOREfishing SPOTS!!!
pick on someone else,,,cause i am VERY ornery and will not put up with being put-down like scum by someone who thinks cause i am younger that i have no right to post!Hmm, 11 Months ??? It says YOU got here in JULY 2002
IS IT JUNE ALREADY??? pretty cold!!
That was sure a FAST 11 months--jeeze where did it go ???

There is a time and place to be ornery ( I was once too) and this isn't the place... And time posting here isn't any indication of qualifications in the suds.
No Problems with you just calm down please,,,,no reason to outburst like that man......as us "young-guys" say ,,, "Chill-Out"

Calm goes both ways...

Maybe you are bitter cause your not younger,,, No reason to pick on THE FUTURE OF FISHERMAN,,,no matter what! Sit down, Have a 'Beer' or whatever you drink and calm-down- being old isn't that bad

It's not all about age, just settle down a little, OK?

you young guys are taking over OUR website? 'OUR' ????

In My book ,,, John R is the 'Owner' you are just like me,,,,a MEMBER

As the "Owner", I want everyone to have a piece of "Ownership" of this website. That means that everyone can take a little pride in how the site develops and the friendships, competition, & knowledge you can dabble about with or jump in with both feet. That's what "Ownership" of this site is about - everybody contributes a little and everone gets a little back in return.

.....even if you have been here a full 3 months more then i have,,,,,CAUSE I POST MORE cause i have more questions,,,, if it takes anyone that long to reach 50 post,,, then they have no post,,,,that's there own fault

You have a ton of questions, most of them good questions (not that there are really any "BAD" questions). Your posting more because you have more questions is not the solution. Your solution is to work at it a little harder on LEARNING about surfcasting instead of ASKING about surfcasting and have it given to you. You'll learn more about fishing from reading a few tips & tricks from a book or online when you go out and APPLY those tips & tricks while trying to get a bend in your rod (fishing rod). You'll learn more about fishing if you fish with people that have more experience fishing. You'll learn more about fishing if you spend more time on the water, not doing the same thing day in & day out, or on a computer.

When you come up with a thought or a question you want to ask, write it down and do a on the boards BEFORE asking a question. You see, these forums can be a little quirky at times. 95% of the people don't mind answering questions, half of them will answer the same question that is asked every 2 weeks or 2 months by someone different, but very few will take kindly to repeated rapid fire questions when all along, 90% of the answers are available after a search of the boards or just a little investigating. I honestly feel that if you make an effort to dig thru what's available, you'll find stuff beyond your wildest dreams. Once that effort is made, you'll have an easier go of getting help online.

You absoluetly need to know that a lot of guys & gals here have put in some serious time to learn what they've learned. They are not just going to "GIVE" it away. These same people want to see you succeed but they want you to earn it.

Learn to Understand there is 14/15 year olds in this WORLD who also LOVE FISHING AS MUCH IF NOT MORE THEN YOU!! you have NO-IDEA how much i love fishing,,,catching fish,,,damn i even love being near and on the water,,,,no matter what ,,YOU CAN'T CHANGE THAT FOR ME buddy!!
I know you are older but we can all learn from each other,,,and YOU need to learn to understand that,,,as well as many older people on here who think all teens are punks who don't know how to fish

Learn to understand that this is a fishing board 99% occupied by adults that love fishing, many of which probably more than you do . Wait until the day you have a fantastic beach all to yourself, with just the right amount of wind, surf, and solitude and suddenly you get a BANG from a big fish, not some snapper blue off Conimicut. Wait until the night where you can see the Milky Way glowing while Montauk light and SE light @ Block nearly synchorize different light patterns and a shiny lineside crashes on your plug. Then you need to decide to grille it or send it free. Wait until you've accumulated years out on the water's edge before you can claim loving the water more than someone else. It doesn't happen for everyone but a LOT of us here suffer from that GodSend.

So please understand, you are in the presence of many adults and that is the standard that you will likely be held to. This somewhat nasty bickering back and forth between you two is not adult behavior. Not that all of us adults always exhibit that , but it happens a lot less.

IF ANY OF YOU FISHED WITH SnS and I YOU WOULD BE SURPRICED HOWMUCH WE LOVE IT AND HOW OUR EXPERIENCE AND KNOW-HOW IS FOR OUR AGE GROUP----

BTW - I used to think I was good & had EXPERIENCE until I got consistantly schooled, now I have no such illusions.

You are not likely to have many of us fish with you if you continue to buck the nature of the board. If you become part of it and be the studius little grasshoppers you can be (grasshopper doesn't need to be a bad thing, we all were and still are in some ways), you might be suprised to get asked to go out in time.

I don't think anyone is doubting your enthusiasm...

and we WILL be older people one day - we are the future of fishing! respect that so we can respect you!

When you're older, you might look back on this as having a little too much misdirected enthusiasm. I know I did and probably most of us did too. Believe it or not, you might even think back and say your folks were right about a lot of things

No Hard Feelings Shore!

No hard feelings here either, just understand that this is to help you and not hurt you, just steer you in the right direction... The road of fishing forums is well paved with roadkill of good intentioned teenage cyber fisherman, don't buck the advice of us "Old People" ;P , fit in & learn from us and from time spent on the water, a LOT of time - again, this is NOT a bitch session, hopefully just a bump in the right direction.