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RIROCKHOUND · 05-16-2007, 03:31 PM

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I don't want to put words in Flap's mouth, but to echo his comments, (which I agree with) the BIGGEST problem is the lack of separation between church and state. An exit poll during the '04 election found that most people who voted red were MORE concerned with 'moral issues' than terrorism, the Iraq war etc.. so they voted for Bush mainly because Steve (not flaptail) wanted to marry Tom or Fran wanted to marry Jane) and get the same civil rights that straight couples get, not because they were worried about Saddam blowing up NYC. That speaks VOLUMES about what is wrong with politics on both sides. Politics should be apolitical, it is groups like Falwell that are trying to change that. I knew it got bad, when McCain, someone I respected started pandering to the religions right a year or two back...

I have Z-E-R-O problem with people practicing a religion (I'm agnostic) but I have a major problem when that belief clouds their opinions or closes of parts of their mind. IMHO it tends to make people less open minded and less free thinking, especially people on the far religious right. It is NOT my intention to generalize of sterotype there.

People like Falwell preach their religious beliefs which includes intolerance of gays, abortionists etc. While he is a step above Westboro baptist church, in my eyes not by much, ESPECIALLY when post 9/11 Falwell eluded to 9/11 being the fault of the 'immoral' people mentioned above. I have a good friend and colleague who is a prof at Liberty. He is a good scientist who is in denial because his religion tells him the earth is 7500years old, even though his SCIENCE tells him it is 4.6Billion years old. (See the N.Y. Times article a few months back, he was a PhD student from my department here)

I dont wish death on anyone, even if I dont respect them, but the world is not a worse place w/o him.

05-16-2007, 03:31 PM	#21
RIROCKHOUND Also known as OAK iTrader: (0) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Westlery, RI Posts: 10,408	Skip: I don't want to put words in Flap's mouth, but to echo his comments, (which I agree with) the BIGGEST problem is the lack of separation between church and state. An exit poll during the '04 election found that most people who voted red were MORE concerned with 'moral issues' than terrorism, the Iraq war etc.. so they voted for Bush mainly because Steve (not flaptail) wanted to marry Tom or Fran wanted to marry Jane) and get the same civil rights that straight couples get, not because they were worried about Saddam blowing up NYC. That speaks VOLUMES about what is wrong with politics on both sides. Politics should be apolitical, it is groups like Falwell that are trying to change that. I knew it got bad, when McCain, someone I respected started pandering to the religions right a year or two back... I have Z-E-R-O problem with people practicing a religion (I'm agnostic) but I have a major problem when that belief clouds their opinions or closes of parts of their mind. IMHO it tends to make people less open minded and less free thinking, especially people on the far religious right. It is NOT my intention to generalize of sterotype there. People like Falwell preach their religious beliefs which includes intolerance of gays, abortionists etc. While he is a step above Westboro baptist church, in my eyes not by much, ESPECIALLY when post 9/11 Falwell eluded to 9/11 being the fault of the 'immoral' people mentioned above. I have a good friend and colleague who is a prof at Liberty. He is a good scientist who is in denial because his religion tells him the earth is 7500years old, even though his SCIENCE tells him it is 4.6Billion years old. (See the N.Y. Times article a few months back, he was a PhD student from my department here) I dont wish death on anyone, even if I dont respect them, but the world is not a worse place w/o him. Last edited by RIROCKHOUND; 05-16-2007 at 03:36 PM..
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