I was thinking of trying the one's andrus makes that are intended to tie bucktails on (the smiling bill type). The ones joe has don't seam to have a big enough collar. maybe I'll get a mold and play around this winter with drilling out a 3/4 oz mold to accept a 7/0 or 8/0 hook.
I haven't tried the heavier ronz heads so they may have stronger hooks, just way too heavy for where I fish.
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