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Old 09-21-2007, 09:50 AM   #8
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He had the microphone and wouldn't give it up so anyone else could participate in the discussion. The incident started because the moderator asked him to give someone else a chance to ask question and/or exchange ideas with Kerry. When he refused to allow anyone else to participate, and in that regard allow anyone else to express thier thoughts, (;ie, see everyone elses freedom of speech issues here), the moderator asked two officers who were on duty there to get the kid to relent. He is a well-known wise-ass in this regard and likes putting on a show. The big mouth tried to take over, not incite a riot, the assemby with his antics. He attempted to control everyones quality of life. Kerry was being polite when he said let him speak, because he just didn't want this arrest to occur while he was speaking.

When you resist officers they are taught/trained by thier superiors to distance themselves and then spray or tase you now. When I came on you wrestled with them or whatever. Officers now are trained to physically interact with someone at little as possible. I can tell you getting tased or sprayed is better than a Kell light smashing into the side of someones head and causing a forty stitch gash as a result. Oc spray and tasers are almost a direct result of the lawsuits generated as a result of the Kell light/skul interactions. Thirty-three almost thirty-fours years and I never wacked anyone with a flashlight.

This kid is a professional wise-ass that got arrested. He was on film because thats what he does. He goes to these meetings and acts-up. If he was punched by the officers, kicked, hit with an object that officers are not allowed to carry then you might have a beef about thier actions.

One more thing the more officers that hold down someone like this the less likely they or the arrestee will be injured. If what the officers were doing was so outrageous why didn't all the people jump up and start complaining, not just the girl with the putz.

Once you pull away, raise your arms, and refuse to submitt, then your destiny is no longer in your hands. Someone else is writing the outcome to this book at that point. As far as "what if it was a woman, (my wife)or someone smaller in stature", its all up to the person who is interacting with the officer, not the officer. And there are many levels of force to use. There are no routine citizen/police officer interactions. To say that any interaction is routine is to label all citizens robots that are all programed exactly the same. It wouldn't surprise me to find out the kid has some psych issues of delusion, or something along that line. He acted like he feels he has some parity with Kerry. Almost like hey I am standing here I am sure you all know Kerry will want to talk with me.

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