ok.. i think i finally figured it out thanks to this thread.. this fish don't hate my buddy and i. we are just ass backwards. i remember every one bitchin and moaning about how slow late june and into july were. mean while my buddy and i were catching 20+ fish a day. nothing special... but still tons of fish. then people start saying august and september were great.. and him and i catch nothing. literally. we also caught fish in the most unattractive of fishing spots in the most unattractive conditions. (mid day, no cover 95 degrees.)
sooooo.. hope no one else catches any fish so we will start catching em.. lol. sorry guys. but if it's between you and me catching the fish. i choose me.

you guys can have a great november. our shop closes in two weeks. so we are running out of time.