mac, thanks for the tip.i'm gonna make copies of the pics and hang them up in the shed out back

that's one of the many things i'm not doing correctly in my early plug building career.

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I got a pair of those pliers because of the pair you gave Mike at CC's.
got em from crawford tools. with shipping and all, they were around 31.00
in case anyone's interested, Mike at CC's will be stocking them soon. I'm sure it will be cheaper getting them there.
thanks again Mac.
