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Im going to look at the grundens a bit closer. Thanks for the feedback guys. Does it happen to others... You get all your gear on, trek down to the water, hear the surf and have to un-do all the crap you just put on to take a squirt. I dont have a problem, but im half considering taking those pills that are advertized all day on tv. The ones with the guys kayaking, toasting with bottles of water becasue they dont have to pee.
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