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RIROCKHOUND · 05-05-2008, 07:35 AM

?The Earth is believed to be 5,000,000,000 (5 Billion) years old.
Humans have been emitting carbon dioxide for roughly 200 years.
(200 / 5,000,000,000) X 100 = 0.000004%
SO IN .000004% OF EARTH'S HISTORY HUMANS HAVE HAD SUCH A DRAMATIC EFFECT THAT WE ARE CHANGING GLOBAL CLIMATE? "

Wow.
Thats beneath rhetoric. A few points, because I'm not getting into a long drawn out climate argument
1. The Earth is believed to be 4.6 Bil yr, so that changes your math a little
2. You are saying something cannot have an impact unless it takes a very long time?

3. Minuscule amount of data? Seriously? You believe that? Human records go back hundreds, biologic proxies (Tree-rings etc) back thousands of years, and have geologic (ice core) data back 800,000+yr.

4. Your right, I'm assuming your heading down this argument path, in the geologic past we have had warmer environments, and higher sea levels and higher CO2. BUT nowhere in the recent or geologic record do we have records that show this abrupt rate of change, and when coupled with observational data form the last few centuries, I find it unfathomable that someone educated in science doesn't agree.

But your right, I trust Art Lake over the scientific majority within every field dealing with climate.

And before you ask, I drive a Tacoma, my sheets aren't spotless, but I have a short commute, and don't just drive for the sake of driving. You can be damn sure I drive my wifes 30mpg car as much as possible, and we live as low-energy as possible given our means.

Do I agree major changes be made globally, including third-world countries? Yes, but as the largest superpower in the world, we should damn sure lead the way in a better future.

05-05-2008, 07:35 AM	#25
RIROCKHOUND Also known as OAK iTrader: (0) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Westlery, RI Posts: 10,408	?The Earth is believed to be 5,000,000,000 (5 Billion) years old. Humans have been emitting carbon dioxide for roughly 200 years. (200 / 5,000,000,000) X 100 = 0.000004% SO IN .000004% OF EARTH'S HISTORY HUMANS HAVE HAD SUCH A DRAMATIC EFFECT THAT WE ARE CHANGING GLOBAL CLIMATE? " Wow. Thats beneath rhetoric. A few points, because I'm not getting into a long drawn out climate argument 1. The Earth is believed to be 4.6 Bil yr, so that changes your math a little 2. You are saying something cannot have an impact unless it takes a very long time? 3. Minuscule amount of data? Seriously? You believe that? Human records go back hundreds, biologic proxies (Tree-rings etc) back thousands of years, and have geologic (ice core) data back 800,000+yr. 4. Your right, I'm assuming your heading down this argument path, in the geologic past we have had warmer environments, and higher sea levels and higher CO2. BUT nowhere in the recent or geologic record do we have records that show this abrupt rate of change, and when coupled with observational data form the last few centuries, I find it unfathomable that someone educated in science doesn't agree. But your right, I trust Art Lake over the scientific majority within every field dealing with climate. And before you ask, I drive a Tacoma, my sheets aren't spotless, but I have a short commute, and don't just drive for the sake of driving. You can be damn sure I drive my wifes 30mpg car as much as possible, and we live as low-energy as possible given our means. Do I agree major changes be made globally, including third-world countries? Yes, but as the largest superpower in the world, we should damn sure lead the way in a better future.
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