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Originally Posted by spence
Do you think people trying to enter this country (or stay) illegally put this much thought into it?
-spence
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No, and therein lies part of the rub. For the huddled masses yearning to breathe free and make a better life for themselves and their families, it is crucial and it is simply the right thing to do to make this change the legal way. The object is to become American, a citizen of the United States. Not to exploit other Americans, and to exploit the United States. Come here and work with me, be my friend, and help us build our country, what is supposed to be the greatest nation on earth - for all of its failings. Come to take advantage of my country, to not be my friend, or to exploit my freinds, yeh, I have a problem with that - there is the door
Too much to ask? A little sacrifice perhaps to better one's self AND one's new country? To actually abide by the laws of the new place you want to call home?
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Originally Posted by fishbones
Spence, you would make a great politician. You can spin anything to make it seem better or worse depending on your own opinion. In fact, maybe I'll refer to you as "Spince" going forward. Just kidding.
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Noticed this myself in response to any contrary thinking. Lots of "I see your point", "your making my point", "similar to where I was going but,..." Yes, Spince is good. We like you Spince, but you do often seem to operate from a Talking Points approach instead of from the heart or mind or perhaps even core beliefs - or is the Talking Point the core belief??
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Originally Posted by fishbones
As a country, we're partly to blame for illegals wanting to come here. We've made it attractive and easy to move here and integrate into our society, with the consequences and risk of being caught minimal. I have no problem with any citizen wanting to legally move here to make a better life for themselves and their family. But, to do it illegally is just wrong. I couldn't just pack up my family and move to Italy and get a job and home and start a life. Also, with the risk of terrorism as high as it is these days, we need to be more protective of our country and who is allowed to come here and stay here.
On the Cape, there are plenty of Brazilians illegally living and working. They're taking jobs from legal citizens and although they spend money on the Cape, they send a big portion of it home. This is not good for our economy. I know this as a fact. I also know that many of them don't attempt to become legal because attorney's charge upwards of $4,500 to $5,000 to help them become legal and it takes a long time. Go down to Barnstable District court and see how many Brazilians are in court and being charged for driving without a license and other crimes. While dwl may not seem like a big deal to you, it puts cars on the road that usually aren't insured and they aren't paying any money to the state for registrations, licenses, excise tax, etc...And if they have an accident, there's no insurance company to pay for it. That hurts the economy.
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I don't think we are to blame for making our country attractive, our country
should be attractive and it
should be more accessible to those that come through legally. Otherwise, I agree with you
