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Actually Stiffy, myself and Bob Mahoney were on Cliff Saturday. There was 6 inches of black ice under a dusting of snow. But, we had scoped out the pond before (last Sunday 2na, me and Mahoney were on it on 4 inches of black ice) but you have to know where to go.
The main body of the pond is not safe in most areas. Salmon fever apparently got to this guy.
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