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Originally Posted by fishbones
Spence,
I feel like I'm watching a pitcher who has lost his fastball and is going out and trying to get batters out by fooling them with curevballs and changeups. You are the political forum version of a junkballer.
You used to be able to put together coherent and researched arguments, but now you just throw out some big words like "asritcels" and "extrapolating" and hope you confuse us.
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Asritcels was simply making fun of RIJIMMY's spelling.
As for extrapolating, it's not that big of a word and there's always dictionary.com
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Conservatives wanting more legislation? Where did you get that from? Is it because the House version of the stimulus bill wanted to verify that workers are legal? What makes that a conservative directive? Is the House full of "conservative" Democrats? By the way, it's not really legislation being added to the bill. It's legislation that's already there that is just not being dropped.
Do you assume that there are US companies breaking the law? Remember a while back the company in New Bedford that was raided and over 300 illegals were carted off? What about all the manufacturing plants in the midwest? I guess if you don't think it's happening, you're probably not very well informed. These people, no matter how good their intentions or how nice of people they are, are hurting the US economy. They use services that taxpayes pay for, while not contributing to those services. They also are working in jobs that could go to legal citizens who are authorized to work in the US.
Do you really feel that this "redundant" provision is going to "burden" businesses? I can't even understand where you can come up with an argument here. It's more of a burden to businesses to pay the fines associated with hiring undocumented workers than to take literally 30seconds to confirm whether an employee is eligible or not.
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I'm obviously being sarcastic to make a point that the outrage over this issue is pretty hypocritical, manufactured and downright silly.
It sounds like proper immigration reform is needed, not some measure tagged onto a spending bill where it doesn't belong.
As for your comment on discrimination, certainly some employers will feel pressure to not hire foreign workers if they believe it could cause them to get a second look from Uncle Sam. Not saying it would be a deal breaker, but it's in the mix regardless.
-spence