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togue · 03-13-2009, 11:26 AM

This issue really p!$$es me off!

Someday I hope these tree hugging bird loving freaks will be found out for what they really are...it must take one HUGE amount of self-loathing and hatred of HUMANS to put non-human animals first! Can they really hate their own species that much? After all, aren't we who fish just as human and deserving of having our right and freedoms protected as the "environmentalists"? Are they so disgusted and replused by their own selves that they can't bear to look at another human, prefering instead to "watch birds" or other wildlife?

Funny thing here is we wouldn't have a National Park Service, or anything like it at the state level either, if it weren't for President Teddy Roosevelt creating the NPS to preserve public access to wildlife - and this was clearly spelled out as public access to freely hunt and fish on private and public lands in this great nation. Where did this all go so very wrong?

I respect the rights of environmentalists to have and voice their opinions, this is all part of what our democratic society stands for. This does not however seem to be reciprocated by them regarding our rights and opinions.

Since apparently it is now in vogue to put the rights of little birds and other animals too stupid or helpless to care for themselves above the rights of humans, how about this little bit of logic for a strategy:

1) I am a human. All humans are animals. Therefore I am an animal, and so I deserve to be protected like any other animal.

2) I do not stay in one place. I move about in search of food that I catch to survive. This food migrates with the seasons. Therefore, I am a migratory animal, just like a bird.

3) Given the truth of the above statements I expect, no demand, that my migratory routes and feeding grounds be protected and my access to the beaches, fields and streams I rely on be kept free of development and open to me.

The bit about keeping my migratory routes free of development may be the hardest. Don't get me wrong here, I am not opposed to letting people who can afford to build a home on the beach, but just follow the money trail. I'll wager that much of the $$$ that fund the legal battles by so called environmental groups halt our access comes from those who want to build their mansions by the sea and claim the beach as their own private domain.

Just such a move over 100 years ago by the "elite" of society to buy up the land and lock out the average citizen from being able to hunt and fish was what motivated President Teddy to enact the National Park System and start the public Fish and Game management initiatives at the State level. The goal was to preserve public access to hunt and fish so we could all "enjoy nature". This is where the uniquely American concept that the "game" and wildlife belonged to the people and not the landowner cam from. This flew in the face of the dominant European system of the time wherein the "game" belonged exclusively to the landowner, which meant if you weren't so fortunate as to be weathy you couldn't hunt or fish.

It scares the #^&#^&#^&#^&ens out of me that a rising American Aristocracy will use our own system of government against us, and treat us all like a bunch of peasants by denying us the same rights and privileges they enjoy.

Thanks TattooBob, and let's all keep spreading the message. Write your state representatives.

03-13-2009, 11:26 AM	#7
togue Pluggin' Addict iTrader: (0) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Knee deep in the hoopla Posts: 54	This issue really p!$$es me off! Someday I hope these tree hugging bird loving freaks will be found out for what they really are...it must take one HUGE amount of self-loathing and hatred of HUMANS to put non-human animals first! Can they really hate their own species that much? After all, aren't we who fish just as human and deserving of having our right and freedoms protected as the "environmentalists"? Are they so disgusted and replused by their own selves that they can't bear to look at another human, prefering instead to "watch birds" or other wildlife? Funny thing here is we wouldn't have a National Park Service, or anything like it at the state level either, if it weren't for President Teddy Roosevelt creating the NPS to preserve public access to wildlife - and this was clearly spelled out as public access to freely hunt and fish on private and public lands in this great nation. Where did this all go so very wrong? I respect the rights of environmentalists to have and voice their opinions, this is all part of what our democratic society stands for. This does not however seem to be reciprocated by them regarding our rights and opinions. Since apparently it is now in vogue to put the rights of little birds and other animals too stupid or helpless to care for themselves above the rights of humans, how about this little bit of logic for a strategy: 1) I am a human. All humans are animals. Therefore I am an animal, and so I deserve to be protected like any other animal. 2) I do not stay in one place. I move about in search of food that I catch to survive. This food migrates with the seasons. Therefore, I am a migratory animal, just like a bird. 3) Given the truth of the above statements I expect, no demand, that my migratory routes and feeding grounds be protected and my access to the beaches, fields and streams I rely on be kept free of development and open to me. The bit about keeping my migratory routes free of development may be the hardest. Don't get me wrong here, I am not opposed to letting people who can afford to build a home on the beach, but just follow the money trail. I'll wager that much of the $$$ that fund the legal battles by so called environmental groups halt our access comes from those who want to build their mansions by the sea and claim the beach as their own private domain. Just such a move over 100 years ago by the "elite" of society to buy up the land and lock out the average citizen from being able to hunt and fish was what motivated President Teddy to enact the National Park System and start the public Fish and Game management initiatives at the State level. The goal was to preserve public access to hunt and fish so we could all "enjoy nature". This is where the uniquely American concept that the "game" and wildlife belonged to the people and not the landowner cam from. This flew in the face of the dominant European system of the time wherein the "game" belonged exclusively to the landowner, which meant if you weren't so fortunate as to be weathy you couldn't hunt or fish. It scares the #^&#^&#^&#^&ens out of me that a rising American Aristocracy will use our own system of government against us, and treat us all like a bunch of peasants by denying us the same rights and privileges they enjoy. Thanks TattooBob, and let's all keep spreading the message. Write your state representatives.