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Originally Posted by spence
Most comparisons to other countries appear to be fear mongering for the most part. While you certainly hear the horror stories you rarely hear the positives, and speaking with many people in other countries over the years they're often very satisfied with their health care.
-spence
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fear mongering
appear to whom?
WHERE IS YOUR PROOF
how many people Spence? which countries?
...I've talked to many Americans and haven't talked to anyone yet who is unsatisfied with their healthcare...
you can cite occasional horror stories from the American healthcare system but
rarely hear the positives....
seems to me we went through an entire presidential campaign and the only stories cited were both bogus...one brought up in a primary debate by Edwards about a denial of care in Cali. that turned up to be a very premature report of the facts and was never heard from again as well as the whopper that Hillary was running with that she supposedly heard and was repeating on the trail that turned out to also be false....this is not about providing healthcare for every American, they already get it if they need it(and the illegals too) this is about the government taking over and controlling a sector that represents 17% of GDP...this is a
WHOLESALE CHANGE...not simply tinkering to improve what is the best and most advanced healthcare system in the world and assured to be a disaster on the scale of all the other social programs begun under the same auspices that now have us 65 trillion in the red in unfunded obligations...
it doesn't matter whether the world's citizens say they are satisfied or not...it's all that they know for the most part...who do they complain to, they have no options once govt. takes over? their systems by and large are unsustainable and collapsing and rationing has begun....do some reading Canada, Greece, England, Spain, France and on and on...better yet, look at the US states that began their own little versions of socialized medicine and the strain on their budgets....
two of the best supposedly
The Japanese healthcare system
The issue is to solve the "tragedy of the commons" without making another
The Japanese medical insurance system has a unique combination of characteristics that has led to the
overuse of tests and drugs, unconstrained demand from patients, and an explosion of costs. Unless the system of medical insurance and reimbursement of healthcare providers changes, the combination of increasing technological advances, an ageing population, and unconstrained demand will produce a crisis in Japanese health care. Japan is only belatedly waking up to this crisis.
Is the German healthcare system setting the right incentives to provide the best patient care?
Posted by eucomed on 29/05/09
An exclusive roundtable hosted by Johnson & Johnson during this year’s Hauptstadtkongress debated the question whether the
current healthcare system in Germany should compromise between the need to standardize treatments due to scarce resources and increasingly informed patients demanding the best treatment possible. Although panelists agreed that Germany may be leading in terms of standards of treatment when compared with similar sized systems across Europe the group felt there was still room for improvement.
Rolf Koschorek, member of the German Parliament, made the point that the uptake of innovations could be faster. This would help ensure patient access to the best treatment possible. Professor Carsten Perka of renowned university hospital Charité made clear that
price is currently the decision-making driver in hospitals. Perka believes that price of products is not the main thing that hospitals and healthcare systems should be concerned about. As long as physicians continue to be measured based on cost per patient treatment (and product) other crucial aspects that might ultimately benefit the patient such as physician training will fall short. A shame, really, isn’t it?