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Originally Posted by fishbones
You obviously need to read up on the actual bill as well I see. Companies can't use the government option as a way of not paying for employee health care.
JD, I know you don't have much time to do any research, but maybe you should look into the government plan a little yourself. I actually have plenty of time because it's part of my job to be informed on this. The government doesn't want companies to offer private plans.
Sec. 113, Pg. 21-22 of the Health Care (HC) Bill MANDATES a government audit of the books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self-insure in order to “ensure that the law does not provide incentives for small and mid-size employers to self-insure”.
Sec. 313, Pg. 149, Lines 16-23 - ANY employer with payroll $400,000 and above who does not provide public option pays 8% tax on all payroll.
Sec. 313, Pg. 150, Lines 9-13 - Businesses with payroll between $251,000 and $400,000 who do not provide public option pay 2-6% tax on all payroll.[/I]
First, many treatments are frivolous and unnecessary. Second, the current bill does not include anything where the national plan can simply refuse treatment.
[COLOR="black"]You're mostly correct in that treatment cannot be refused, but the government can decide what treatment someone can/will receive in most cases.
Sec. 123, Pg. 30 - THERE WILL BE A GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE deciding what treatments and benefits you get.
Sec. 142, Pg. 42 - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your benefits for you.
Sec. 1145, Pg. 272 - Treatment of certain cancer hospitals: Well, let's just hope no one you know gets cancer.[/COLOR]
Learn the actual facts for yourself. Listening to you guys is like being 12 years old and playing the telephone game, where a person tells you something and then you say the same thing to the person next to you but with one or two words changed.
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Where is this from? As it appears to be an interpretation and not the actual bill.
Because my company will potentially fall within the $250k-400k bracket, I have consulted with a few people that deal directly with health care. Combine those consultations with my own research, and my understanding is that companies that don't offer *any* health care and have a total payroll obligation > $250k will have to pay the additional tax.
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Before playing intellectual superior and bashing others with your own junior high school insults, you should take some time to actually read the bill yourself. Then you could try to see where they are coming from.
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It goes both ways. At least I'm not underhanded about it. Would it be more acceptable if I put some emoticons in my posts as the people my comment was directed at do when they dish out insults?