[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

No, I'm private school educated. Why the cheap shot?

Not a cheap shot, I was just wondering where your critical thinking went. Read your own responses in this thread.

See Spence, I don't like Obama.

I got that.

I don't like what he stands for.

America?

He won't make a tough decision because he's a fraud. He talks a bunch of BS but never really takes the courage to make a stand on National security issues.

I see that he has a different approach than Bush, but where has Obama shown a lack of courage?

He voted present for most of his senate votes and continues to be a coward.

Election year fluff long since debunked.

Here are the facts: According to reports by both The New York Times and the Associated Press, Obama voted "present" 129 times as a state senator. The AP reported that Obama said the votes represented a small portion — a little more than 3 percent — of the "roughly 4,000" votes he cast as a member of the state Senate.

The Illinois state Legislature allows members to vote "present" rather than "yes" or "no." The Times reported in December that "present" votes provide a way for lawmakers to voice opposition to an issue. Such votes can also help them avoid the political fall-out of voting "no":

Say what you want about Bush, but at least he had some sack.

Yep, Iran sure was intimidated.

FYI, it was the Patriot Ac,t that you and JD have trashed that Obama, who also trashed it, used to stop the most recent homeland attacks.

I think most would agree that the majority of the Patriot Act is very reasonable. Some elements need additional measures to ensure privacy is protected. I don't see this as "trashing."

Talk is cheap. When I see our security handed over to others to secure, I get worried.

Where?

Now, I'm going to strive to be as educated as you, talk in circles and never really say much, but I want to keep my common sense if thats OK.

I'm really not all that educated, it just comes naturally

-spence