Thanks Karl, that's the one, but Orvis switched me over to e-bay where
they were sold out.
I noticed Orvis had the Shimanno Stradic at $159 that i bought a few years back for $129. Ya, must get an Orvis box for the extra $30.
Thanks for all your help youz guys, it was a blast bein able to laugh so hard on each post.
Your the best.
