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Originally Posted by Sashamy
The plight of the buffalo someone else brought up...apples and oranges...first of all that was a time period when ther was no government agencies protecting wildlife, secondly buffalo are mammals they reproduce at rate that is not even comparable to a fish that lays millions of eggs at one time...but what we can compare is the processes of natural selection...the weather...rainfall...run-off also contribute to the success of these creatures ability to survive and reproduce...
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uh well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Doug, that "someone" was me. and my reference to the complete and utter decimation of a particular species was made to show how The Age of Industry, Westward Expansion, and good-old fashioned American Greed (the comm trappers were paid quite handsomely) led to the anihilation of one of God's resources. imho, these beasts and their existences have been intertwined with the American Striper, and the Atlantic Coast Menhaden since Creation. i beleive that God gave the Plains Indians the Buffalo for food/clothing/shelter/tools, and that he gave to the Narragansetts/Mohegans/Sachems/Algonquins the Bunker for a natural fertilizer and the Striper for food among other species and plants. the plentifulness alone of them before the "whiteman" came along and destroyed each of them, with no regard for them as a partner in Life nor Environment, speaks most loudly to the level of ignorance and neglect that this country has always had towards its "neighbors".
quite simply, Doug~~~~~
just because there is no law against what havoc we wreak on environment and species,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,that does not equate to the justification of our abhorent behavior. do you think that the trappers were right for the actions they took, at the behest of the US gov't, back then that led to the total demise of the great American Bison? how do you suppose the Plains Indians felt at the time? hey, the Jean-Luc Trappierres of the world weren't breaking any
US Laws!! they had families to support and the Buffalo were there, right? gimmeee a break!
for me the same goes for this scenario,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,numbers can be switched and swayed however you would like them to be favored.
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Originally Posted by Sashamy
I applaud you gentlemen for your thinking, but I am a little worried about your lack of compromise...why punish and continue to persecute the sector of the fishery that is hook and line? highly regulated? and done by a panel of your peers? anyone can get a license it is not a special interest group...just my two cents... Doug
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and how is it a fish grab if ALL parties are in favor of a reduction in the take? 1 @ 36", free the pogies, and nobody is saying no to charters~~~ we ARE saying that something needs to be done so as NOT to repeat the past. we are saying no comm's for a time,,,,,2-3 yrs??? how harmful can it be to relieve our beloved prey of some pressure for a short period of time? and if as you said we ALL got licenses, well then that would REALLY boost the comm take now wouldn't it? and isn't it a little like shooting fish in a barrell these days once you hit Stellwagon? not much sport there, Sport! just sum thoughts, Doug.