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		 pbadad- simple saran wrap[tip via Joe figs-thanks Joe ] 
 
canalman - I know ,have them also more multi purp lip very close  but without turned up sides wire hole is lower...Saltys were better for this job 
 
Woody- none of the above -ayc as I had it,turns nice and is denser than pine/ red cedar/basswood..  maple might be nice 
		
		
		
		
		
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