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stripermaineiac · 04-17-2010, 07:49 AM

You still miss the point Pat. The rules we put on our fisheries are not the ones that tje foreighn fleet go by which is none. Our poleticians know this and put no sanctions on them and still allow them to be sold in our markets even though the treaty they signed says that if the don't meet the same rules and restrictions as our fisheries and industries that they will be penalized to even the playing feild IE. Import Tariffs.Many industries make bad business choices but it doesn't mean that the competition should be allowed an unfair advantage by being given plitical passes on the agreements they sign into with us.As far as comparing sardines to herring well sardines are fished for in the northern waters not by pair trawlers. a 4 in fish won't stay in a net thats made to keep 7 in fish.I worked on a sardine boat one summer as a kid. we went north to fish not south.
In our zealousness we should be carefull not to again make the mistake that because someone is a freind of so to speak an enemy that they are our enamy also. This problen is a large political one where agreements are made for personal profit that hurt our economy as a whole. When the tariffs where in place many of these businesses flourished very well as the small guy had a chance .
Think about this your a fly fisherman. 20 yrs ago most of the flies we used were tied right here in America by 1000;s of small time at home flt tiers. Umpqua feather Marchants stepped into the picture and started buying up all the top quality materials and having their flies tied in Laos,Thialand and several other countries and then selling them on the American market for a small fraction of what it cost us to tie them let alone sell them. Those tiers get paid pennies a fly and work in sweat shop enviorments. The very thing that the agreements made by our government were suposed to stop and be made better and on par.Sanctions were supposed to be put in place but weren't for political and personal gains by our poeticians.I know this cause I'm one of the many fly tiers that used to tie 4 to 5 thousand flys a yr to sell. LL Bean,Cabelas,Bass Pro, Gander Mountain and most of our tackle shops buy from Umpqua efefectively shutting American tiers almost completely out of the market.
Same problem just another vinue.My cost for tying a fly is more than Umpque sells them for here. HHHHHMMMMM and the problem must be me and all the other tiers like me.We expected our government to look out for our interest being American citizens ist.Not the foreign economy .
As far as the lobster industry goes well like all lobter boats everywhere the spoiled and ruined fish end up in the bait bags used to be red fish till people found out it taste good now herring ,mackeral and whatever else is on hand is used. But again instead of dealing with the poleticians lets keep throwing spears at each other so no one works together to fix the problem.The poleticians. Haven't we learned enough with the bull crap with the health care debates to see the real problem. They need to work for us not the world economy. Period.

04-17-2010, 07:49 AM	#30
stripermaineiac Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Buxton, Maine Posts: 1,727	You still miss the point Pat. The rules we put on our fisheries are not the ones that tje foreighn fleet go by which is none. Our poleticians know this and put no sanctions on them and still allow them to be sold in our markets even though the treaty they signed says that if the don't meet the same rules and restrictions as our fisheries and industries that they will be penalized to even the playing feild IE. Import Tariffs.Many industries make bad business choices but it doesn't mean that the competition should be allowed an unfair advantage by being given plitical passes on the agreements they sign into with us.As far as comparing sardines to herring well sardines are fished for in the northern waters not by pair trawlers. a 4 in fish won't stay in a net thats made to keep 7 in fish.I worked on a sardine boat one summer as a kid. we went north to fish not south. In our zealousness we should be carefull not to again make the mistake that because someone is a freind of so to speak an enemy that they are our enamy also. This problen is a large political one where agreements are made for personal profit that hurt our economy as a whole. When the tariffs where in place many of these businesses flourished very well as the small guy had a chance . Think about this your a fly fisherman. 20 yrs ago most of the flies we used were tied right here in America by 1000;s of small time at home flt tiers. Umpqua feather Marchants stepped into the picture and started buying up all the top quality materials and having their flies tied in Laos,Thialand and several other countries and then selling them on the American market for a small fraction of what it cost us to tie them let alone sell them. Those tiers get paid pennies a fly and work in sweat shop enviorments. The very thing that the agreements made by our government were suposed to stop and be made better and on par.Sanctions were supposed to be put in place but weren't for political and personal gains by our poeticians.I know this cause I'm one of the many fly tiers that used to tie 4 to 5 thousand flys a yr to sell. LL Bean,Cabelas,Bass Pro, Gander Mountain and most of our tackle shops buy from Umpqua efefectively shutting American tiers almost completely out of the market. Same problem just another vinue.My cost for tying a fly is more than Umpque sells them for here. HHHHHMMMMM and the problem must be me and all the other tiers like me.We expected our government to look out for our interest being American citizens ist.Not the foreign economy . As far as the lobster industry goes well like all lobter boats everywhere the spoiled and ruined fish end up in the bait bags used to be red fish till people found out it taste good now herring ,mackeral and whatever else is on hand is used. But again instead of dealing with the poleticians lets keep throwing spears at each other so no one works together to fix the problem.The poleticians. Haven't we learned enough with the bull crap with the health care debates to see the real problem. They need to work for us not the world economy. Period.