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Originally Posted by basenjib123
to the idiocy of politics. Ancient technology instead of sensible, efficient technology like Nuclear power, etc. Of course the ignorance surrounding Nuclear power is astounding even in this dumbed down society! Windmills ...  |
DITTO!
They are in my back yard and frankly I don't care either way. I like the idea of putting them up for fishing structure, (horseshoe shoal is a desert and lets be honest it is not fished that much by comm fishermen...just a few bluefish out there in the rips, I have been there, the added structure would help the fishing IMO.) I don't like the view but are maddened by the outright lies and the promises about the amount of power and the costs. (if it were not for the tax breaks they would be wayyyyy too expensive/kwh) I see the whole think as sort of a student experiment. My attitude is ...go-ahead, do-it, knock-yourself out BTW....I will let you go out there in February and service them
The fundamental problem will all solar related energy is that it is LOW ENERGY DENSITY...this basically means you have to have a lot of high maint equipment spread over a very large area to produce any meaningful amount of power. Moreover what burns me the most is that the advocates are painting this as the "solution" to the energy problems. It is far from it and NEVER will be, it physically can't. They claim the wind farm will provide 70% of the Cape and I's power demands...The cape and I's are a seasonal population for the most part with fairly low population density of summer homes. The energy demands of a city like Boston, NY Chicago, Miami, etc...is mind blowing and this would not even provide a few percent, if that. Will wind farms produce clean energy...yeah but this is way over hyped. The Denmark examples are foolish. Have you seen the way these people live? They have a population of what....RI? LOL! We would have to go back to the stone-age, live in tiny places, headed by a few logs. No AC, No 50" TV's, not gonna happen in the US. Low energy density methods are fine for very low population based regions with intermittent power demands, to think of it powering a major city is outright naive and foolish.
The long term solution to the planets electrical demands is some form of atomic power. You will see next-generation plants that are far more modern than in the past, and eventually the waste issue will be solved. Look, when you see a nuclear sub, that provides enough electrical power 24/7/365 for a small city is compact to fit in a 30'dia hull, and runs for up to 30 years on a "fill up", you will see what I mean. Further, the amount of spent material after the 30 year period amounts to the volume of a golf ball. All this without any gasses to the atmosphere.
Burning anything..(including wood) is not green. Wood burns at low temps and produces a ton to toxic gasses, renewable or not it is disruptive to the environment. Everyone can't burn wood, this is not a solution, imagine if everyone heated thier house or apt. in NYC with wood...forgeaboutit
We need a kick ass power grid and Research money in atomic energy period!
What this administration should be doing is preparing the nation for a massive grid upgrade. I see (after we are all dead and gone), everything electrical, and you will go home and your car will be charged from the power plant...we can't do this now even if we had the cars with advanced batteries because we don't have the utility gird to support everyone charging up a car each day. This where the "stimulus" money should go...build a state of the art power grid and provide research $$$ in the atomic energy fields along with strong incentives (read: real money and tax breaks) for kids that excel in the science fields to pursue this in grad school instead of going into the investment banking world.
We need REAL POWER and A LOT OF IT! windfarms are a toy.