i thought it was supposed to get easier as they got older?
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
I hope you don't think a 1-18 year old pays attention to you the 1st few times you tell them NO.......it takes a few hundred....and then they still don't listen.
You still got 17 years left of it so get used to it....
The Pliers trick is a good one....I could see me using that one 
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