fishsmith, NO one SAID you had to be PROFESSIONAL this is fly ty'in it all FUN. EVERYONE has to start some where, where else better than here. give it a shot it's only RED.GREEN WHITE, tie up a DECIEVER, CLOUSER, ANTYHING in thoes colors then post.
GOOD LUCK HAPPY HOLIDAYS
P.S. are you out on that TIN CAN !!!!!!!!