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Old 01-04-2011, 12:49 PM   #5
Jim in CT
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman View Post
I don't think race had that much to do w/ Obama getting elected....I'm pretty sure that the democrats could have propped up a carrot stick and it would have won.

The Economy was in the chitter, Scandal was wreaking havoc on the financial sector......

Hope and Change was all he needed.

Funny thing is....in 2012, it may be worded differently, but the GOP will be using the Hope and Change premise to get him out.
"I don't think race had that much to do w/ Obama getting elected...."

I'll dissgree. 96% of black voters voted for Obama. And Obama played the race card God knows how many times during the campaign ("they are going to make you afraid of the fact that I don't look like them").

He never, ever, ever would have even been nominated if it wasn't for his race. How many completely inexperienced, radically liberal white folk have the Democrats nominated for President?

"The Economy was in the chitter, Scandal was wreaking havoc on the financial sector......"

That's true. Despite all the flak McCain gets for picking Palin, the fact is that after he announced Palin as his running mate, McCain lept ahead of Obama in all the polls, and stayed there until the economy went down the tubes.

If what I fear may happen to the economy actually happens, the GOP will be able to nominate a carrot stick and win. In 2008, the economy was brought down by subprime mortgages. In 2011/2012, I fear the economy will be brought down by sovereign debt. States and cities will very soon be implementing astronomical tax hikes, the only reason huge hikes weren't needed the last 2 years was because of stimulus money that's now gone. Even with huge tax hikes, many state and local govts will be really struggling to meet bond payments.
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