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Old 01-20-2011, 11:50 AM   #16
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JohnnyD you really wanna go down this road with me??? we dont blame TREE HUGGERS.. actually we place blame where it belongs..bad science its been proven!!! mor then once.. If you dont fish comm maybe you should sit and talk with some REAL ones who know whats goin on in the industry before eatin everything your spoon fed media wise.. $$$ for fishermen??? from th egoverment??? umm yea a loan program to buy a boat!! In an industry where they are puttin us outta business... Dr. Jane Lupencheco or what ever her last name is.. HEAD OF NOAA... founder o fthe PEW Ocean Comitee... How far ya wanna go man seriously?? We can go back in forth all day long on this.. One question tho how can you say "overfishing" when we are cut to 28 days a year with very strict weight limits of 1500 for 15 hours which is ONE day of fishing not 24... hmm woul dlove to see some of the people who bang so hard on the comm guys on here have to do half the stuff we do just to work.. better yet id like to see yall pay your bills on 28 days a YEAR... with productivity limits.. Im very tired of the industry my family has been involved in since 1661 (PROVEN) bein hammered on when I cant even get through a crowd of illeagals or "gangsta" or non english speakin people at a spot.. No lIcenses no common sence just killin fish for fun.. hmm 20 ignorants per spot and that is bein kind on estimate vs a DIEING INDUSTRY.. hmmm reall who does more damage????
Sure, let's talk about your industry, an industry where just about every single commercial fisherman I have gotten to know has shown that he abuses the system - be it high-grading, keeping too many fish, fishing on non-commercial days, selling at back doors, striper fishing in the EEZ, you name it. Sure, there are some honest ones that go completely by the book, but there is no denying that they are the minority.
You're right, the science is bad. One trip to a regulatory meeting will easily demonstrate that. The part where you're wrong? The science is bad in the comms favor and that bad science is the only reason there is *any* season at all. They knowingly use bad data, accept terrible relative YOY numbers, utilize arbitrary stock numbers, ignore myco mortality, ignore that their bycatch numbers are low and then say "yeah, we know the numbers aren't accurate, but those are the ones we are going to use to consider increasing the quota 20%."

Upset about only having 28 days to fish? Don't blame me about a short season, don't blame the PEW organization, blame the ones who raped the seas in the past without regard for the future and continue to do so.
  • Blame the trawlers that throw more dead bass over the rail as bycatch than a dozen Rod and Reel Comms would catch in a season.
  • Blame the companies who cause the 2-3 videos that pop online each year with keeper bass belly up in the middle of the ocean.
  • Blame companies like Omega that will wipe out a school of bait.
  • Blame the group of fishermen in MD that profited multiple millions of dollars by scamming the system.
  • Blame the fisherman who was caught with the secret compartment in his boat to poach fish.
  • Blame the tournaments that promote killing the largest fish possible.
  • Blame the NC Commercial fishermen who fish well into the EEZ and then throw their catch over the rail when there are reports of the Coast Guard coming.
  • Blame the lackluster enforcement.

I would 100% support a well regulated Rod and Reel Commercial fishery with responsible people, reporting their catch and playing by the rules along with a major tightening of Recreational Regs (1@36") with effective enforcement. Unfortunately, none of those things will ever happen - there will always be comms who disregard the system, there will always be Recs who keep too many or undersized fish and the government sucks at enforcing their own regulations so.... Gamefish Status will be the eventual outcome.

There was already one crash of the stock due to ineffective regulations. The writing is on the wall and I hope you're prepared for the next crash.
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