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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Obama personally demonized Paul Ryan, and that's a fact.
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Where in the speech did he demonize him directly? I read the text of the speech here:
Text of Obama Speech on the Deficit - Washington Wire - WSJ
I didn't see Paul Ryan's name. Did he criticize his plan, absolutely! Did he call him some derogatory name? not that I see....
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
I'm reasonable, and willing to listen.
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Overstatement of the year, easily.
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Bit Obama said that Ryan wants to "pit kids with Down's Syndrome against the billionaires of our society".
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I assume you are talking about these paragraphs
It’s a vision that says America can’t afford to keep the promise we’ve made to care for our seniors. It says that ten years from now, if you’re a 65 year old who’s eligible for Medicare, you should have to pay nearly $6,400 more than you would today. It says instead of guaranteed health care, you will get a voucher. And if that voucher isn’t worth enough to buy insurance, tough luck – you’re on your own. Put simply, it ends Medicare as we know it.
This is a vision that says up to 50 million Americans have to lose their health insurance in order for us to reduce the deficit. And who are those 50 million Americans? Many are someone’s grandparents who wouldn’t be able afford nursing home care without Medicaid. Many are poor children. Some are middle-class families who have children with autism or Down’s syndrome. Some are kids with disabilities so severe that they require 24-hour care. These are the Americans we’d be telling to fend for themselves.
Where is the billionaire vs down syndrome quote??? I must have missed it. Or you are putting your own interpretation of Obama's speech into quotes to make it look like he said it.
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Second, Dad, you're saying that the personal attacks against Bush were widely denounced because of a call for civility? Please enlighten me, Dad...when liberals were comparing Bush to Hitler, calling him a war criminal, from where did the calls for "respect" come from? Who are the people you are referring to? In my opinion, it's liberal apologists like you who (1) mercilessly attacked Bush, and who (2) don't want anyone attacking Obama, that want it both ways.?
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I think Kevin is saying it is ironic that those on the right, who jumped all over anyone who criticized bush or called him names got slammed for being unpatriotic. I don't read it as no liberal every said a bad word about Bush....
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
why does Obama demonize Ryan personally, instead of responding to the merits (or lack thereof) of Ryan's proposal?
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I see DIRECT lines about the increased costs people would face under the proposed plans in the next decade.... again, where did he say #^&#^&#^&#^& you paul ryan?
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Maybe Ryan should support infanticide. After all, Obama did, and lots of people voted for him. I guess infanticide doesn't violate any of the liberal agenda...
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If I had the time I wish I could search all the threads you post in and see if you ever don't take the abortion U-turn....
Welcome back to my ignore list.