View Single Post
Old 11-26-2011, 04:01 PM   #67
scottw
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
scottw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 12,632
Quote:
Originally Posted by spence View Post
No, I said agree on the core issues...not do you support the "movement" which would include methods as well as a broader spectrum issues.

The CBS poll you've cited recorded 66% agree wealth should be distributed more evenly, a core issue for OWS.

The ABC poll done just after goes further, 61% not only saying wealth should be distributed more evenly, but that the federal government should take action.

so let's follow this to it's logical conclusion...A new report (pdf) from the Tax Policy Center breaks it down. In 2011, about 46 percent of households won’t pay income taxes(Ezra Klein's blog WaPo for a little liberal credability). So I'll give you the 46%(and then you can dream that another 20% or so of Americans are currently socalists) who have no federal tax liability might agree to have the federal government redistribute wealth through higher taxes on the wealthy and corporations, they can only gain, right?.......and how exactly does the distributing take place? More government services, government jobs, just start making out checks to all of those who currently have no federal liability till all of the distributing is done and things are even.....?? I'm pretty sure that many of those 46% are already getting a nice check...
.
the actual question was

18. Do you think the federal government should or should not pursue policies that try to reduce the gap between wealthy and less well-off Americans? Do you feel that way strongly or somewhat?

you seem to assume that means taxing the wealthy and redistribution, which makes sense coming from you, some of us might see that as pursuing policies that will allow the economy to flourish again which would be the fastest way to close that gap



The majority also seem to want corporations to have less influence in Washington, for instance 62% in this Gallup poll from earlier this year.

In U.S., Majority Still Wants Less Corporate Influence

It's time to really ask who's interests is Congress looking after. Yes, that was a rhetorical question...if Congress were less busy doing things that it was never charged to do.... it might be better able to focus on the "interrests" that it is supposed to focus on.....

-spence
you are on a roll today MSNBC, NBC, CBS, WashPOST

I don't think it's a shock that people want to see less influence in Washington by Corporations...particularly when you see the debacles by this administration with tax payers money doled out to questionable corporations who just happen to be well connected...my guess is that many corporations would like to have much less to do with Washington thus having less "influence" but they have to, in many cases, pay to play, and cooperate in the protection schemes and rackets set up by Washington elites or else become a victim of Washington's whims....

how is Washington, the "Federal Government taking action" by increasing Federal taxes on the wealthy and corporations, going to result in a "more even distribution of wealth"? Particularly for those that currently have no federal liability...the fact is that this has nothing to do with spreading the "wealth" around to the bottom but everything to do with further funding a behemoth government, the "bottom" might have a few scraps thrown their way but the redistributing is from the wealthy and corporations to the Federal government to satisfy and further fund the enormous appetite of the Federal bureaucracy....nothing more...

a "core issue" without a lot of thought behind it

Last edited by scottw; 11-26-2011 at 05:14 PM..
scottw is offline