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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Let me get this right... Clinton is the patron saint of infidelity for getting some on the side, but Gingrich "made a mistake". I would think that someone like yourself with strong religious beliefs would find Gingrich, with his infidelity and 2 divorces, just as reprehensible as you find Clinton.
Yes, I understand that Clinton is a Democrat and therefore you hate him. However, remove the -D and -R, and they are both guys that fooled around on their wives.
I'm curious how you justify the double-standard. No politics. How is one man reprehensible for what he did and another "made a mistake"?
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"I would think that someone like yourself with strong religious beliefs would find Gingrich, with his infidelity and 2 divorces, just as reprehensible as you find Clinton."
You have some irrefutably valid points, as usual.
However, someone with my religious beliefs understands that we're all imperfect. As far as anyone knows, Gingrich has been happily married for 15 years, is a devout Catholic, and he admits his sins and has asked for forgiveness. I don't see that as morally equivalent to Clinton using a 20 year-old girl's sexual organs as an ashtray, and then angrily denying it the next day, and suggesting that my problem is that I don't understand the definition of the word "is".
I find Gingrich's past actions there to be disgusting. I also believe in redemption for those who are sorry. By all accounts, Gingrich has been sorry for his flaws, and has been an above-the-board person, since he converted to Catholicism.
"I understand that Clinton is a Democrat and therefore you hate him. "
You understand me a whole lot less than you think. There are lots of Democrats I like, and lots of republicans I despise. I think very rationally about these things. I also think Clinton was a pretty good president, especially after he adopted conservative economics.
"I'm curious how you justify the double-standard. "
A double-standard is when you treat 2 things differently when they are, in fact, the same. Gingrich appears to me to be a sincere, devout Catholic who fully admits his sins. Clinton (while a good president in my opinion) is a weasel. I'd bet Clinton is still unfaithful to Hilary, and I'd bet that Newt has straightened himself out. That's the difference.
It's not a double standard when you treat 2 different things, as if they are different.
Here's a real double-standard...saying that Bush trampled civil liberties by passing the Patriot Act, but not holding it against Obama. Or calling Bush a war criminal for using predator drones and Guantanimo Bay, but calling Obama a good leader for doing the same, and even giving him the Nobel Peace Prize.. Those would be real double standards.