Originally Posted by justplugit
Like I said we are going down the highway to socailism.
Take Obamacare for instance, government taking over healthcare when the
private sector can handle it with some changes in Tort and interstate competition.
Government isn't taking over health care, that is false. The private sector will still be responsible for healthcare. At this point, the government covers the healthcare of millions of people when they go to the ER for general care. That has been going on forever under all presidents. The net cost may actually be lower.
Obama wanting to spend another $3 Trillion on more government programs when we are already $12 Trillion in debt. You mention Bush. Well, how about going back to 2008 government spending limits. What are the emergency needs that require us to spend another 25% over 2008?
Majority of the difference is the cost of medicare and social security. and paying down the debt.
Obama wanting to redistribute the wealth by increasing taxes on the rich and those making over $250 thousand a year. Here taking advantage of humannature's jealousy. How come he has more than me?
Reagan redistributed wealth more than Obama, based on what you are saying. Was he a socialist? It isn't a question of "humannature's jealousy," it is a question of whether the tax system under Reagan, Bush 1, and Clinton worked better than what Bush 2 gave us. We are a country with a progressive tax system. If it is unfair to tax Mitt Romney at higher than 15%, that is an opinion, one of which I will never agree with.
An Iron Worker working on a 40 story building in below freezing temps and high winds taking a risk compared to a government worker pushing paper in a warm office, who deserves more? Same with sucessful business peoplewho work 24/7 to build a business, hire people, pay their benefits, pay business tax and risk their capital. Again because they are sucessful should they pay higher taxes than the office worker? Socialism would say yes.
The iron worker has it a heck of alot tougher financially than a millionaire, yet you would prefer that the iron worker pays the same percentage of tax as the millionaire because it is "fair." I am not sure where you get the idea that the iron worker will pay more than the "office worker." I, like most Americans, including many millionaires (Rick Santorum, Ronald Reagan, GHW Bush included) believe that a progressive tax system is reasonable. It isn't socialism. The Republican mouthpieces spew the word around to scare people. It is rather pathetic.
I could go on and on Zimmy, but American Capitalism is based on rewardingsuccess in a free market, ownership of private property and a right to protect us from intrusive government. I'll take that any day.
Make it a free market, where one industry doesn't get preferential treatment over another. The Republicans would never ever let that happen. If you understand how subsidies, tariffs, and incentives work, you know that what we have is not free market. Pretty much every piece of reform under Obama is there to protect consumers from the kind of corporate malfeasance that contributed to the collapse of the economy.
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