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I know am getting close to non fly fishing. But there is a big difference between this and wire line jigging...sorry. This is what I don't like about many fly fishermen. Many are closed minded purists.
Many clouser flys have a barbel weight on them and I can cast those OK. This is just a little more weight in a different place (these weigh 1/8-3/8 oz) and it is not a bucktail it is a weighted hook. One could argue that a bucktail is a type of fly. What about those gummy flys... or tube flies or any fly with eyes or epoxy. Those could be considered lures not flies.
I have not tried to cast this yet but if I can not fly cast it (in a fly fishing manner) I will not fish it. That is my personal rule of thumb.
Many people have different views of what "fly fishin is"... I suppose the purest see standing on a stream edge, casting a 4 weight rod with a 2# tippet and a dry fly the size of a gnat catching fish that are 4" long the "true" meaning of what fly fishing is and "suppose to be". Others using teasers to lure in a marlin then "fly casting" a 14" "fly" to a fish 6' away and battling them on 80# backing and a rod that can only be described as heavy surf rod. Bottom line....To each is own.
Personally, I see pure "fly" casting as the act of casting the line not the lure. When the fly gets so heavy that it interferes with this act, then your not not fly casting...you can still be fly fishing though...you have a fly rod (in my case a 9 or 10 weight) and fly reel with fly line and a weighted fly.
I may be able to get down with the new denser fly line alone and a normal fly...I will find out. I am just experimenting, I try a LOT of weird things ( I do all kinds of fishing too, boat/shore/inshore/offshore/spin/conventional/big game/and a little fly) so there is a lot to try (only sw though) most ideas don't work as well as I hoped (brainfarts)but some do. This is just one of those things. Frankly I get a kick of trying something that hasn't been done much before. I have a lot of memories of catching fish on weird stuff.
A few come to mind:
A prime-rib bone I had for dinner, removed marrow, poured in lead and rigged for trolling. (caught both bass and blues before finally loosing it)
A potato peeler I found on the beach, I rigged it up right on the beach and caught a bluefish with it the second cast.
A solid plastic squid I made...30# bass
A unique backwards bucktail that sits at a certain angle when retrieved and has replaceable wings of different sizes. You can adjust the wings to get the bucktail at any depth you desire. I have only caught a couple fish with it (small bass) but I am still perfecting it. I love fishing this thing for some reason.
Ball and socket jointed plugs.
Garden hose tube
umbrella rigs made of all kinds of stuff.
a solid metal needle fish lure (aluminum)(this is pretty cool)
A SS heavy tube needle lure (also cool)
A complex mag weighted minnow plug (most effective surf casting plug I own, but they take forever to make)
Large fluke jigs (more like halibut jigs) for fishing deep.
I made a fly out of a piece of electric wire while on-board, cast it hooked up instantly.
A lot of other wacky crap most I don't remember anymore but that is half the fun of it for me. Try it, it may work, that is my attitude.
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