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Old 03-06-2012, 02:17 AM   #37
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One of Ronald Regan's first executive orders was to cut the overtime federal withholding tax for hourly workers so it was no greater than their straight time rate.
It used to be, if you worked overtime, your federal withholding was at a higher rate than your straight 40 - and you didn't get back the additional at tax time, regardless of deductions. You effectively were penalized for working o.t..
He reached out to the clock punchers and gave them a bone, and a greater incentive to increase productivity.
that's how you sum up Reagan and Goldwater Conservatism and how it differs from Santorum and Palin Conservatism?

“Mr. Conservative” – Barry Goldwater and the Genesis of the Conservative Movement

In the 1950s, Barry Morris Goldwater emerged as the nation’s leading conservative politician. It was Goldwater, along with his growing legion of “Goldwater Conservatives,” who brought the concepts of small government, free enterprise and a strong national defense into the national public debate. These were the original planks of the conservative movement and remain the heart of the movement today. In the late 1950s, Goldwater became closely associated with the anti-Communist movement, and was an avid supporter of Sen. Joseph McCarthy. Goldwater stuck with McCarthy until the bitter end and was one of only 22 members of Congress who refused to censure him. Goldwater supported desegregation and civil rights to varying degrees. He got himself into political hot water, however, with his opposition to legislation that would eventually turn into the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Goldwater was a passionate Constitutionalist, who had supported the NAACP and had backed previous versions of civil rights legislation, but he opposed the 1964 bill because he believed it violated states’ rights to self-govern. During the Republican National Convention in 1964, Goldwater gave perhaps the most conservative acceptance speech ever uttered when he said, “I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.”

I don't think Reagan varied much from Goldwater on issues of smaller government, states rights, individual liberty, free enterprise and national defense....nor do Palin or Santorum as far as I know...

from Kengor's book....Mr. Kengor wrote, “[Reagan’s] belief in God was a key source of his optimism and his boldness, his daring and self-security, and his confidence; these essential intangibles carried him throughout his presidency — and career as a whole — and enabled him to achieve what he did.”

Reagan’s words "Those who created our country — the Founding Fathers and Mothers — understood that there is a divine order which transcends the human order. They saw the state, in fact, as a form of moral order and felt that the bedrock of moral order is religion. ... The truth is, politics and morality are inseparable. And as morality’s foundation is religion, religion and politics are necessarily related. We need religion as a guide. We need it because we are imperfect, and our government needs the church, because only those humble enough to admit they’re sinners can bring to democracy the tolerance it requires in order to survive."

"Without God, there is no virtue, because there’s no prompting of the conscience. Without God, we’re mired in the material, that flat world that tells us only what the senses perceive. Without God, there is a coarsening of the society. And without God, democracy will not and cannot long endure. If we ever forget that we’re one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under."
Mr. Reagan was a loyal supporter of the unborn and spoke of the need for a constitutional amendment to permit voluntary school prayer.


where Goldwater differs from Reagan, Palin and Santorum politically and what some would like to include in their version of "Goldwater Conservatism" is his later libertarian views on pot, abortion and gay marriage...they don't embrace his Conservative views but rather, his moderation on these issues.......Goldwater and Reagan had a little problem with Communism and Socialism...get yourself to and democrat or leftist rally and notice how much Communist and Socialist literature is being handed out...the democrat party is the home to America's socialist and communists...still waiting for Spence to name a Democrat Constitutionalist in Congress

Joe....if you long for the Reagan and Goldwater Conservatism based on small government, Constitutional governance, free enterprise, state's rights, individual liberty.... I'd suggest to you that the only place where this still resides is among the "nuts" that you appear to have a problem with...these principles are completely absent in the current democrat party...

so Joe...who do you vote for???

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