[scottw]

Originally Posted by likwid

Cervini and his friends were high/drunk and Scott saw them attempting to break into a car.

What was Trayvon doing?

why does it matter?...

in both cases the stage was set by recent crime in the vicinity

at the time of the incident Scott saw the kids hanging around a car acting suspiciously, left his home loaded his weapon and confronted the kids on the street while his wife called the police(just going by the reports), at the time, Zimmerman spotted Martin hanging around the club house acting suspiciously and called the police....neither knew about any of the other stuff until afterward, Scott could have yelled from his doorway that he was calling the police and then closed and locked his door just as Zimmerman could have gotten into his car and locked the door and waited for the police....Scott fired twice, once apparently in the back, prior to an altercation....Zimmerman fired sometime during or after an altercation in which he was badly battered...

New York is a victim state to put it simply.
No relevance.
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Thought? Read the reports. He was actively committing a crime according to Scott.

report says they were rummaging for cigarettes in an unlocked car, again, neither Zimmerman nor Scott really knew what the kid(s) were up to but inserted themselves into a situation that ended very badly, Zimmerman had a right to be in his neighborhood and ask Martin what he was doing there just as Scott had a right to be on his sidewalk and ask what the kids were doing near the car, both could have retreated to safety, both claim that they were threatened/attacked, Zimmerman bore physical evidence


How do you draw a gun while having your head bashed into pavement?

probably out of desperation