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Old 06-29-2012, 10:44 PM   #16
detbuch
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Originally Posted by justplugit View Post
I would really like to see a real discussion on why the 8 Cannots listed
would or wouldn't work as policy.
They have worked as policy during the 150 years of this nation before progressives were finally able under FDR to begin truly transforming this country in their vision as expressed by Karl F's FDR quote:

"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have too much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little . . ."

Your 8 cannots are born of the same liberation and supremacy of the individual that spurred this nation's founding and the creation of its Constitution.

Karl F's quote reflects the progressivists' collectivist anti-constitutional administrative philosophy of government and the individual's dependence and subservience to the government. It begins with "THE test of our progress"--not "A" test or marker. Then "is not whether we add more to the abundance"--it is "we," collective society and government, who add to the abundance "of those who have", and it is not provided by the individuals themselves "who have too much . . ." Finally "it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little . . ." Again, it is the "we" who must provide "for those," not the "those" themselves. Of course, what is too much, or too little, is measured by the "we." And every "crisis" becomes fodder for more power to be transferred from the helpless individual to the expert, benevolently powerful "we."

Your 8 cannots will not work in conjunction with Karl F's quote because individualism and the constitution are obstructions to the power of the "we."

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