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Originally Posted by zimmy
Republican idea to have the mandate and penalty. Why does that get ignored? If one is going to go without insurance and make everyone else pay, why shouldnt they get taxed to cover those expenses, which is what it effectively does. Also, why do the cons lie and call the law a tax increase? The tax is on those who choose not to be insured in order to cover the inevitable costs to others because of the lack of insurance. There is a penalty (what one justice called a tax), but the law is not "a tax. "
Do they really think people are that stupid?
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"Republican idea to have the mandate and penalty. Why does that get ignored?"
I've heard this, but don'tr know the details. Zimmy, can you elaborate?
"why shouldnt they get taxed to cover those expenses, which is what it effectively does."
I agree it's a good idea to get freeloaders to pay into the system. here's the failure of Obamacare. It's still cheaper to pay the tax and forgo insurance. Then, because Obamacare also explicitly states that insurance companies cannot refuse someone with pre-existing cionditions, so here is what will happen...young, healthy people still have a financial incentive to not buy insurance until they get sick. And insurance companies cannot survive if people aren't signing up until they get sick.
Furthermore, a huge pecentage of the freeloaders are illegal aliens. Illegal aliens put significant financuial burdens on their communities. I'm not sure I see where Obamacare addresses this.
Every physician in America will tell you that their medical malpractice insurance is (1) insanly expensive, and (2) a cost that, naturally, gets passed on to the patient. Everyonhe agrees that some fair, compassionate tort reform would go a long way to reducing health care costs for all of us. Obamacare doesn't addres this, because Democrats are as beholden to teh Trial Lawyers Lobby as Republicans are to the National Rifle Association.
Finally, Obama's federal government is giving a lot of Obamacare waivers to businesses that are sympathetic to liberal causes.
Obamacare has some awesome stated goals. But Obama is going about it in a bad way, rewarding his political allies (at the expense of everyone else), and sllowing people to enroll in insurance only after they get sick.
"Also, why do the cons lie and call the law a tax increase?"
Zimmy, you are
really off the deep end here. Supreme Court Justices Ruth Bader Ginsberg and Sonia Sotomayor called it a tax increase. Are they conservatives who are lying?
Zimmy, in this very post, you said this..."why shouldnt they get taxed..." So, even you are calling it a tax. And since that is a tax that doesn't exist today, that necessarily means it is a tax
increase. Are you a lying conservative?