[Mr. Sandman]

Most are from Nassau county and NJ and they come with an attitude. Easy access was the downfall of Montauk. The worst thing they ever did to LI is build the expressway out to Riverhead. When you had to take Montauk highway the entire way there were far fewer people who made the trip.
Had a boat there for a long time.
The Nov bass bite is a thing of the past. These fish today have different genetics I think and start leaving in August. In the 80's you could catch them well into Dec. I don't see anything like that anymore.

I would make a mid-late Sept trip and try to fish mid week. Forget-about Fri/Sat/Sun trips.

While they do get big fish there, most of the blitzing you hear about are tiny fish that crash the beach feeding on bay anchovies. The mosquito fleet (little CC's with fly rods) chase them around but I would not waste my time. That said, the blitzing action is impressive and every now and again, big fish push thru and you can connect if you can avoid the mobs. I stopped surf fishing that place when stuff was stolen from the truck. Also, don't leave your plug bag on the rocks while you fish, it will not be there when you get back. I grew up on eastern LI as a kid...I loved the place but it is not the same out there anymore, it is way more congested.

I too have witnessed hostile fishermen get in each others face to the point of knives and police involvement. (over a fishing spot) I would not wast my time.

Montauk is a much better boat fishing spot than beach fishing spot IMO.

FWIW...when I am not on the boat...I sit down to pee now too. I don't know why but it is just more comfortable