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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
Zim, zim zim -
- its true that Obama supporters believe the govt should be providing healthcare, home finacnce support, etc. Do you disagree? This is O's platform and what he drives for.
Of course many Obama supporters believe that. As did Romney as governor. As did Reagan and Bush 1 and 2. They all included money for those things in their budgets. Not specifically providing healthcare, since that statement is misleading, but that medicare, government loans, etc. have value.
- its true Obama supporters believe in entitlement and that wealth should be distributed. Right?
Obama supporters believe that thre is a need for social protections. They believe in a progressive tax system, as has pretty much every president in the last 80 years. It isn't a question of redistributing wealth, even if Obama puts it that way. The sum of taxes have an enormous impact on the middle class and the poor. For an idiot like Romney to pretend that 47% of the country isn't affected by taxes is moronic. Especially when a guy like Romney makes tons of money off of profits that are only the level they are because of government subsidies in natural resources and ag. He would have much less money if it wasn't for the government or if all income was taxed at the same level. Or if his dad hadn't been on welfare 
- Its true that Obamas base will vote for him no matter what Romney says or does. Right? Maybe. In the same way that the con bases isn't voting for Obama. But the Romney of Massachussetts would have had a better chance than the shape shifter psuedo-radical he has become to please the nutsos in the party.
What part of the above is not true and what part was not explicit in Romneys statement? It isn't remotely what he said |
"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it -- that that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. ... These are people who pay no income tax. ... "
You said he was 100% correct. He was nearly entirely wrong. First off, the 47% who don't pay income tax, don't all vote for dems.
The entire 47% aren't dependent on government. Many of them are defending our country. Many of them are retired and payed their share. Many are students.
47% don't think the government has responsibility to care for them, although some people may think the government has a responsibility to help the poor.
47% don't believe they are entitled to health care, although some may think that everyone should have it for a variety of reasons.
He is factually incorrect and it is pandering to people too foolish to understanding he is scapegoating other Americans to get votes. "Your life would be so much better if it weren't for all these bloodsuckers bringing you down." The cons don't like when Sharpton does it, but the leaders of the repubes are surving on the same tactics. What Romney said was incorrect. It can be spun, be it isn't backed by facts or any semblance of truth.