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Old 10-31-2012, 09:52 AM   #7
Jim in CT
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Originally Posted by spence View Post
Reagan's real legacy wasn't his adherance to founding principals, it was his desire to seek the best deal he could...

Jim, for Obama to make fun of Romney's flip flopping isn't being divisive.

Sure, you can make claims of class warfare against the President, but the sustained an unified effort to portray Obama (and by association the entire Democratic party) as an alien socialist incompatible with true American values has certainly been the most divisive strategy I've ever seen in my lifetime.

I think it's less about the personalities and more a symptom of the political climate. Back in the 1980's differing opinions would go hash out a plan over drinks...Reagan had no problem cutting a deal he thought moved the ball forward. they don't do that any more.

-spence
"for Obama to make fun of Romney's flip flopping isn't being divisive. "

For Obama to call out Romney for flip-flopping is not divisive. For him to resort to name-calling is divisive, un-dignified, and un-presidential. And speaking of flip-flopping, it's also the opposite of the unifying approach Obama promised us.

"Sure, you can make claims of class warfare against the President"

Thanks, that's big of you. That's like saying I can "make claims" that Obama is male.

"the sustained an unified effort to portray Obama (and by association the entire Democratic party) as an alien..."

As usual, you are wrong and/or lying through your teeth. The mainstream conservative movement doesn't spend any time on Obama's citizenship status, that effort is driven by the kook fringe. Those people don't have any influence. Let Donald Trump make an ass out of himself. The President should be above that. Obama clearly is not.

Spence, Obama has based his entire re-election on division. Class warfare...the war on women...the 1% versus everyone else...wall street versus main street. Are you going to deny that with a straight face?

"Reagan had no problem cutting a deal he thought moved the ball forward. they don't do that any more."

By "they", can I assume you mean republicans? Or do you concede that democrats are just as guilty of obstructionism when they are in the minority? Oh. I forgot, when liberals are obstructionist, they are being patriotic. But when conservatives are obstructionist to proposals they feel are bad for the nation, they are just being jerks. Do I have that right, Spence?

Spence, Obama is the president, and he is leading the charge in dividing the country on wealth and gender. The conservatives leading the charge about Obama's citizenship are not taken seriously anywhere. The president is supposed to raise the bar, not lower himself to the lowest of the low.
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