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Old 12-14-2012, 08:58 AM   #36
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY View Post
ok there spency, how about Honda and Toyota, better examples to cite?

Quality, value, dependability, etc? You following me?
We've had Toyota people working with us for years on six sigma an straight through processing. I cant recall any union shops being examples of quality and ingenuity, can you?
Hmm, I guess its just a coincidence.
I believe both Toyota and Honda workers are heavily unionized in Japan. This is where LEAN Manufacturing was born, it's perhaps even more heavily used in Manufacturing in the USA than Six Sigma although many companies also employ both.

Yes, they're not unionized in North America. Many of the imported assembly plants have set up shop in areas where the average wages are lower...for them, the auto jobs are a good deal. Considering the cheap land and tax advantages used to lure them to set up shop, it's probably a good deal for the auto makers as well.

I've never asserted that unions are the ideal, but I think at times they provide a necessary counter to the power of the corporation.

I do think that a blanket move like right to work will be very disruptive to business and from what I've read the auto makers aren't that excited about it.

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