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guessing by the glow eyes comment on the blurple that you have salty's needles. if not, it would be helpful to know what you have. assuming its salty's, they're a good all around, slow sinking needle. under most circumstances, i like needles fished up in the water table. start retrieve right when it hits the water, first couple of cranks fast to get it near the surface (but not on the surface). Steady retrieve with occasional twitch or pull (similar to the open and closing hand technique some use with ss darters). Very retrieve speed. Slow is not always best. may want to add a redgill in the situation you describe. good luck. they work.
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