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Originally Posted by zimmy
It is simple, she and many white Americans can't stand the idea that people with brown skin exist in numbers that they view threaten white power and dominance. Illegal immigration is a red herring. For many of them it is that the people have brown skin and even if they all were here legally, the discussion (as comrade orange face already brought up) would be about limiting the numbers of people coming in legally.
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Tribalism and its dominance of territory exists everywhere on this planet that is inhabited by humans. Comparable forms of it exist even in most of the free roaming animals on this planet. You can even see the fight for territorial dominance in the plant life on this planet. Some form of dominance seems to be inherent in all living species.
Humans are able in some degree to transcend the drive to dominance. For the most part, that transcendence applies to other humans. We're not very capable of coexisting with other forms of life. We typically try to dominate any species with which we cohabit space.
Biological life exists in constant conflict, eternal war, and dominance of space to exist. Various forms from the smallest microbes to the largest mammals or trees vie for space and dominance of their territory, and usually, with some minor exceptions of symbiotic relations, do so not only by dominating their space but by consuming the energy provided by other species.
"Many white Americans," as you put it, are not so different from other color Americans in fearing their loss of power to other "tribes"--simply as a reflex of that inherent natural fear of being dominated as fodder for others, or of extinction--just as the native American Indian tribes came to realize what was happening to them as they lost dominance over their territories to another tribe. The Chinese and the Japanese tribes in their native lands protect themselves vigorously against influence of others in order to maintain their tribal integrity and power over their territory. The Middle East and Africa are still dominated by tribalism. And very violently, murderously, defending it.
But is it now still the primitive "race" tribalism that you think many white Americans have, or is it the cultural tribalism that Jim claims. The U.S. has been far more able to become racially mixed as a national tribe than most others. I suspect that Asian, African, and Middle Eastern tribalism is more racial than "Western" tribes. And that in this country, culture is more important than race. Especially so are political, religious, ideological, and class cultures the most divisive lines of tribal delineation.
For example, if immigrants would predominantly vote republican, were Christian or atheist, were ideologically classical liberal who supported constitutional conservatism, would the "many Americans" (Republicans, "conservatives," etc.) object so much against their coming here even if they were also brown. And would the supposedly brown friendly Progressives and "liberals" be all that supportive of them coming?