Originally Posted by spence
And yet I think extremist Muslims have killed far more non-American Muslims than Americans.
Sure, then moderate muslims should have the common sense to understant our fear, no?
Not very many if the problem is really Islam. I think there have been a few hundred and many of these are somewhat lower on the threat scale. Out of a billion Muslims worldwide that doesn't make for a lot of terrorists.
It only takes one to kill me or my family, just one. Millions of people across this country will drink and drive tonight. Possibly none will die, however I wont do it.
Don't forget that he was also an American citizen, business person and wore more Kenneth Cole than Islamic dress.
I wont forget, all the more reason for my mistrust. Againt to my point they dont wear uniforms. But - there was ONE thing that would identify him, isnt there?
Just like Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, Michael Fortier and Coleen LaRose?
You might want to take this comment back, it's pretty ugly.
Of those mentioned above, which ones belonged to a cult, cult of tens of thousands that declared war on you and your family? Of those above, which ones danced in the streets when thousands of Americans died? Which one of those people beheaded innocents in cold blood? If you took a computer and loaded it with data on the last 50 yrs of air travel and had it calculate a risk factor for each religion, race or background. To which would it assign the highest, unbiased risk? Again Spence, common sense. Its your friend and may someday save your life. Im not advocating living in fear or any restrictions of muslims rights, but to say there is no grounds for fear or scrutiny based on that religion is plain stupid.
Common sense would really dictate that the trepidation be somewhat on parity with the actual threat. The chances of someone in Islamic dress on an airplane actually being a terrorist out to do you harm are probably as low (or lower) than the chances of you dying from an accident on the same plane.
I agree, Im petrified of flying and take pills when I do. That said, any cause of a airline crash is most likely beyond my control. However, I may have control if I, like the passengers of flight 83 did on 9/11 and passengers of board with the shoe bomber did, act to save my and others lifes. Im not saying we shouldnt allow muslims to fly, Im saying that the fear and uncomfort are rational and reasonable, And should be understood, not silenced.
What percentage of black men are Black Panthers? You're stereotyping again...might want to take this one back as well.
Hardly any, just like hardly any muslims are terrorists. However if the black panthers threatened to kill americans, I as most would, would be cautious and potentially nervous in the presence of black men. We have been born with survival instincts, your liberal PC may someday be your end. Most dog dont bite, however I dont stop and pet rotweillers. Common sense.
The movie is from 1985, made during a period when the US was in a tense period with Libya, making them an ideal target. While a Muslim, I'd consider Gaddafi's identity to be more of a socialist or Arab nationalist and not really an Islamist at all. The fact that he sought reconciliation with the West might have been partially a survival instinct, but certainly isn't the behavior of someone driven by dogma.
Not the point. Today was made in 2010, a period when muslim extremists have declared war and have killed thousands of americans, using jets as brutal weapons.
-spence
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