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Originally Posted by spence
Exactly what I was saying so it can't be true…
-spence
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There is that . . .
. . . and that it is a cut and paste from a liberal rag. That should be enough for a yawn.
Seriously (which is to say I was only joking in a serious way about the above stuff), you touched on what is really at play here when you said that the objective of the Koch brothers Is to eliminate progressivism. In which case I would support them wholeheartedly in their endeavor. But it is highly unlikely that they will succeed no matter how much evil "dark" money they contribute to the effort. The choice of "dark" is lol funny. Ooooo, being "dark" makes it so much more effective. That "transparent" money just ain't as powerful. "Dark" has the power of Siths and Vaders, the power of Satan and the underworld, conjuring up powerful evil forces which can only be resisted by the angelic white knigts of "transparent" progressive money and the uncorruptible saints of the Democrat party like Harry Reid. Actually, Jim's problem would easily go away here if the Kochs would just kick in some coin to Harry Reid. Then he would only say nice things about them. Might even arrange some tax breaks or favors for them.
But, that is the heart of the matter. If their intention is to eliminate progressivism, that is too just and honorable than to dirty it up by bribing both sides for personal gain.
You say there is nothing like this in liberal circles. Yes, there are those who want to preserve the progressive system and eliminate what is left of the constitutional system. And there are many of their donors who openly admit that.
It has been said in this thread that lobbyists and the law (campaign finance?) are the problem. The severest problem with those is at the Federal level. And that is so because the Federal level has become a progressive system, not a constitutional one.
It has been said that money in politics is a problem. Again, that problem is multiplied in a progressive, top down, overly powerful central government. And taking money ($17+ trillion and well over $100 trillion and growing in national debt and unfunded liabilities) out of politics at this stage may be too late. That kind of expenditure and debt by the Federal Government is directly a result of scrapping the constitutional order and transforming it into a progressive one. So progressivism has very deep claws in our body politic, and killing it may well be the only solution. And that may only be possible by a total economic collapse which opens the eyes and minds of enough of the populace to understand that what our government has been transformed into over the last hundred years is the true "dark" money. It is the real Sith and Vader empire. And the Republic we once were may have a chance to reemerge. Or . . . it may just be another crisis the progressive left can not let go to waste and caste us even more solidly into the service of an all powerful State. For our own good.