[buckman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Johnny D -

I suprised, you actually listed things that, as far as I know, the feds are actually doing...you didn't make anything up.

Now, in your first post, you said the feds were doing these things under "disguse" of national security concerns.

The use of the word "disguise" implies that YOU think the feds had some other motive, other than national security for, say, warrantless wiretapping. SO, if the feds aren't doing these things to deter terrorist attack (which I contend they are), why are the feds doing these things? Do you really think the feds want to know whether Johnny D likes vanilla or chocolate icecream? You think NSA is keeping a list of people who are against the Patriot Act?

So Bush and Cheney get rich off big oil. Everyone knows that