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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"This MS13 quote?"
No, that wasn't it. He was talking about immigrants in general, then he honed in on MS13 and called them animals, and many outlets reported that he referred to all Mexicans as "animals".
"Are you claiming that he is not trying to spin opinion"
Of course he was spinning an opinion, and I'll concede that his opinion would probably disqualify him to ever be the US ambassador to Mexico. But he obviously wasn't bashing all of them. By and large, Mexico isn't exporting their best engineers, scientists, and business people to the US. Why would they?
You are trying to spin every utterance into somehting for more sinister than it is. That's exactly what I'm talking about.
He would not be a very good con man if that was his rhetoric, it is far more subtle than that.
He's not a good man, not even close. But he's not what the media is portraying him as, either. Not only is it what they're doing dishonest, these liberals are still too stupid to see that it helps him. You can fill the Pacific Ocean with valid criticism of the guy, why do you need to fabricate stuff, especially when that has the opposite effect you seek? I don't get it.
When Michelle Obama said that she wasn't proud of this country until Barack got the nomination, liberals spent weeks defending her, saying, "well yes she said that, but what she really meant was..."
Can't have it both ways.
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This time it's but Michelle...........
I think maybe you should read the transcript.
Trump’s remarks came during a May 16 immigration roundtable discussion that touched on so-called sanctuary cities, MS-13 gang members, the federal "catch and release" practice, and policies in California related to the detention of immigrants. Participants included cabinet members, California sheriffs and other elected officials.
Margaret Mims, Fresno County Sheriff: "Thank you, Mr. President. You know, sheriffs in California are now in an untenable position when it comes to trying to figure out — now, we have state law, we have federal laws, and here we are stuck in the middle. Sheriffs, especially, because most of us run our county jails.
"When there became a legal challenge to the 48-hour holds for ICE, it was very frustrating for us. So what I did is I invited ICE to put their officers in my jails so they're able to do their work. We didn't have the staffing to be able to help figure out who they wanted to talk to or didn't. I said, come on in, work with our people to keep our community safe. Two weeks later, Mr. President, Kate Steinle was murdered.
"Now, I wasn't the only sheriff to do that. Sheriff Youngblood did, Sheriff Christianson. And it was perfect — because we didn't have to take our time, with our staff, to do, to do anything. ICE was in there doing their work in a safe, controlled, environment. And then, the initiatives started happening -- the TRUST Act, the TRUTH Act, and finally, SB 54, the Values Act. And that is causing us all kinds of turmoil.
"So here we are, stuck in the middle, trying to decide. We have federal law, we have state law. And that's why I welcomed Attorney General Sessions's lawsuit, because that will provide us the clarity that we need and direction that we need. What do we do? Because here we are.
"And I appreciated Mr. Homan and ICE. We had a great relationship; we still do. But now ICE is the only law enforcement agency that cannot use our databases to find the bad guys. They cannot come in and talk to people in our jail, unless they reach a certain threshold. They can't do all kinds of things that other law enforcement agencies can do. And it's really put us in a very bad position."
Trump: "It's a disgrace. Okay? It's a disgrace."
Mims: "It's a disgrace."
Trump: "And we're suing on that, and we're working hard, and I think it will all come together, because people want it to come together. It's so ridiculous. The concept that we're even talking about is ridiculous. We'll take care of it, Margaret. We'll win."
Mims: "Thank you. There could be an MS-13 gang member I know about — if they don't reach a certain threshold, I cannot tell ICE about it."
Trump: "We have people coming into the country, or trying to come in — and we're stopping a lot of them — but we're taking people out of the country. You wouldn't believe how bad these people are. These aren't people. These are animals. And we're taking them out of the country at a level and at a rate that's never happened before. And because of the weak laws, they come in fast, we get them, we release them, we get them again, we bring them out. It's crazy.
The dumbest laws, as I said before, the dumbest laws on immigration in the world. So we're going to take care of it, Margaret. We'll get it done."