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Old 02-21-2018, 07:11 PM   #172
detbuch
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Originally Posted by zimmy View Post
Your analysis of the data and your conclusions are fundamentally flawed. Abortion rate is number of abortions per 1000 women. It has fallen dramatically across all groups.
You are comparing abortions among ethnic groups as a percent of total number of abortions. It is correct to say it has fallen less for blacks than other groups. It is correct to say that it is higher in blacks as a percent of population and that the percentage of the total has increased. It is incorrect to say the rate has gone up. Factually incorrect.

If there were only three abortions last year and two were black and one white, you could say 66 percent of abortions were black. That would be a higher percent than ever. It would not mean there were more abortions than ever. It does not support your statement that birth rates have dropped due to abortions.

You specifically referred to Blacks and Hispanics. Which infers a comparison to others. Even if the rates of abortions for all groups has dropped, the rates for blacks compared to whites and Asians and Hispanics, has dramatically risen. So then the number of births per 1000 pregnancies would have become less for blacks, dramatically than for whites, Asians, and Hispanics. That portion of the lower Black birth rate due to abortions would affect the rate of growth in the size of the Black population vis a vis others. Which supports to some degree the idea that the native Black population is diminishing or growing less in comparison to other races which Jim exaggerated with his usual hyperbole when he said : "liberalism is convincing blacks to abort themselves almost out of existence."

All else equal, a drop in abortion rates and a drop in birth rates means a drop in pregnancy rates, which refutes your statement.
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You talked about birth rates before, but you change to pregnancy rates here. In either case, how does a drop in abortion rates decrease either birth or pregnancy rates. Won't higher abortion rates cause a drop in birth rates? Or vice versa, won't lower abortion rates (lower number of abortions per 1000 pregnancies) increase the number of births per 1000 thus increasing the birth rates (number of births per 1000 pregnancies)?

And what do either birth or abortion rates have to do with pregnancy rates if "Pregnancy rate is the success rate for getting pregnant. It is the percentage of all attempts that leads to pregnancy, with attempts generally referring to menstrual cycles where insemination or any artificial equivalent is used, which may be simple artificial insemination (AI) or AI with additional in vitro fertilization."?
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