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Originally Posted by spence
And Bush didn't???
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Bush absolutely effed up. As did Rummy, Cheney, and Bremmer (tool).
Whether or not we should have been there (we shouldn't have but as Powell said, once you break the china you own it), once we were in and once he realized - very late - that we could win or lose he put his chips on win, rather than doing what the politically easiest thing to do was. While everyone else was crying run and not winnable (Reid, Biden, Pelosi, Hillary, and pretty much the entire Dem party - sans Lieberman) he doubled down on Petraeus, our military, strategy, LUCK, and sticking it out.
The surge worked, no doubt helped out by things that changed on the ground, but it worked. No timetable.
Obama campaigned on making AFG the good and necessary fight but he stumbling over ways to get out. If different sources like Woodward's book is to be believed, the entire administration is a mess in its bickering approach to how to handle AFG other than that they want to get out ASAP and put a foolish timetable on it.
Timetable.
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Originally Posted by spence
I don't agree at all. Obama has actually given the military a lot of leeway on how they've engaged in AFG. That's not to say there hasn't been meddling by some, but he hasn't held anyone's hands behind their backs.
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