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Originally Posted by wdmso
All the Documentary does is support what I have expressed that Iraq was never Stable
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If the title of the documentary is taken from a quote by Santayana that "Only the dead have seen the end of war", and if the author of the documentary agreed with Santayana that "there is eternal war in nature", then ipso facto he would believe that Iraq was never stable. And he would also believe that no country was ever stable. The "eternal war" would negate any stability. And, I happen to agree with that. Not only is war eternal, so is change. One could equate change with war, change being a type of war. Witness history. In it, about the only thing that remains the same in politics throughout time is what we refer to as "human nature." We try to dissect and examine that nature, "finding" different factors which contribute to it, or we try to deconstruct it, but it consistently pops up in the same stereotypical ways in all facets of our lives throughout recorded time.
Countries are stable only in that they are all composed of people and their human nature. All else is subject to the war of change.
On the other hand there is this human concoction of and desire for stability. We seek to escape the constant roil of change and construct a more comforting "eternity" by which we know all there is to know and so find that place where our versions of "peace" will be everlasting.
But we have only been successful, on this earth, to varying degrees, to achieve temporary spans of what we consider stability.
So, when those who "hate Obama" as you put it say Iraq was stable, they are referring to a certain set of conditions which have been suppressed and to another set of conditions which have been created. How long those conditions remain "stable" will depend on other sets of conditions, including US military presence in this case. That stability does not mean that the underlying eternal war in nature won't also continue to exist. It doesn't mean that conflicting factions and faults of human nature will not continue to exist. It only means that the the "eternal war" is contained. And it will only be contained if the conditions which suppress it exist. Even an Obama "lover" like Joe Biden was seeing a condition of stability and a hope for democracy in Iraq.
But it would only be a question of time when the eternal war would bust out of its containment. The only question would be in what direction the change would lead. Our troops leaving too soon seems to have turned the direction in ways that made our sacrifices meaningless. Of course, eternal war never ends. So neither ISIS, nor the other Islamist tyrants are guaranteed any eternal victory.