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Originally Posted by spence
That's not insurance as framed in the first part of the statement. Hospitals have to provide initial treatment if someone walks in but the law stops pretty much at that.
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This kills me...THERE ARE STILL COSTS INVOLVED! I have seen people go to the ER just for a pregnancy test for the sole reason of not spending a few $ on a kit they can get in the pharmacy. The ER HAS to provide it. I have seen illegals get worked up in the ER for a headache. OH and the ER has to provide interpreters as well... This entire system is phucked
And...they simply just keep going back. For free, time and time again, and they bring there visiting relatives who have some real costly problems that costs many thousands of $ and the "system" has to absorb it. This can not go on. It is just like do-doc mortgages...eventually, the system will collapse. Why is this such a hard concept to grasp?
There is a real cost to this and it it passed over to those that are citizens and paying into the system. Despite what you say, the government denies any cost shifting, yet that is exactly what is going on.
They need to deny care to those that have no ability to pay and are not legal citizens or simply charge them on the spot and provide them a receipt so they can get reimbursed under their own countrys' plan. We can not absorb these health costs.
In many areas good doctors who are in demand are not excepting ANY health insurance anymore, none. They charge you on your CC or you pay on the spot and they give you a receipt on the spot. Then if you have coverage, you can submit this to your plan. They are out of the loop. Now the end user (you) see what a PIA the system is. I know a few of these doctors doing this and in fact I use to take my kids to one of them when I lived in VA. He said he was able to lower his costs significantly and thus the cost he charges me. He was able to lay off 6 office staff who spend their day fighting with the insurance companies to only collect a 50-80% of his bill. He is still fully booked up.
We don't have a health care system problem. We have an insurance problem. Lets start there. You know, when the bomb went off in Boston all I heard the news talk about was that they people in the hospitals were "getting the best care in the world". Where is the problem? It is not with health care...it is paying for it.
There is still a bigger picture. Everyone wants the "best" health care they can get. The demand it. They insist on regulations for doctors that most of the population can never achieve to. The education, the continuous testing, the licensing, the insurance goes far beyond what most people can imagine. The insurance alone can cost hundreds of thousands per year! Not to mention they want cutting edge drug and equipment as well as state of the art new development from research. Oh, and they want this all for free. For everyone. When was the last time you heard that they were increasing the fees to doctors and hospitals? In the end...you get what you pay for.