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Old 06-15-2015, 04:37 AM   #18
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Originally Posted by detbuch View Post

And isn't it that progressive socialist mentality that Bernie seems to be implying to be "real family values"? I say imply, because he doesn't actually cite any values. Just what aren't family values. And, of course, they aren't because they are not values at all.
values, rights, entitlements, aren't they just created out of thin air now a days to fuel political ambition? Varying definitions of truth, justice, liberty to suit one's needs rather that to form a common understanding and a stable environment in which to thrive. Communities are as torn and divided as the family unit as values are degraded and destroyed, transformed....this is an image on an 18th century Liverpoool jug that I'm restoring, made for the American market shortly after the Revolutionary War. Symbolic of what the framers intended and understood.....the Great Seal of the United States sits atop a foundation where Lady Liberty resides above Justice and Truth, below is a vignette with fields being plowed(the land of plenty) and a warning above which reads (united we stand + divided we fall)....this is not complicated...we cannot have individual liberty without a basic understanding and agreement on both justice and truth......without those, liberty fails, America falls.......it's the "responsibility" that is required with exercising our inalienable rights that allows us to live side by side with others enjoying without having them taken away, it's when neighbors claim special rights(positive liberties) for themselves, create their own "truths" through shifting sand thinking and engage in arbitrary justice, and acknowledge no responsibility as we can see in our history , we end up in struggle rather than peace....modern, newly created rights, privileged and entitlements, arbitrary justice and shaded truth don't appear to require any responsibilities beyond supporting the correct cause..........

that's pretty much where we're at...

some will look at Bernie's family values statement and say, "he's lying and he never mentions a 'family value' "....and will be attacked as a hater for pointing this out

some will look at the same statement and say, "even if he's lying he's got a great point"....and will be applauded for being open-minded
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